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Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard

Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
Hand-Forged Mandeville Dagger, Cross Guard
$209.99
Ex Tax: $209.99
  • Model: Hand forged Dagger
  • Product Code: MandevilleDagger
  • Location: Kathmandu,Nepal

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What Is a Mandeville Dagger?

The Mandeville dagger is a long, slender, double-edged medieval dagger built on sword furniture: a curved steel cross with hooked terminals, a leather-covered grip over a shaped core, and a disc pommel closing the tang. The name is a trade association rather than a formal typology, attached to this family of knightly daggers by collectors and makers over many years. This one carries an 18 inch blade with a single narrow fuller, a 7.5 inch hilt of which 4.5 inches is grip, and 25.5 inches overall. It is hand-forged in Kathmandu from 5160 high-carbon spring steel, mirror polished, and carried in a black leather scabbard with a laced throat panel.

It is the longest dagger we build, and at 650 grams also among the lightest for its size, which is an unusual combination and the reason it handles the way it does. The guard is the part that separates it from the rest of our quillon daggers: where they carry straight crosses, this one curves toward the blade and finishes in hooks.

An honest note on the name. Geoffrey de Mandeville, 1st Earl of Essex, was a real and genuinely notorious figure of the English civil war of the 1140s, excommunicated for sacking Ramsey Abbey and eventually buried by the Templars in Temple Church, London, where his effigy still lies. This is not a reproduction of his arms. A dagger of his actual era would carry a brazil-nut pommel and a broad blade of near-even width; the disc pommel, the fine taper and the curved cross here are features of the two centuries after him. We use the name because it is what this style of dagger is called in the trade, and we would rather explain that than let you assume a provenance the piece does not have. Our wheel pommel quillon dagger page covers the historical Mandeville in more detail.

Please check your local law before ordering. This is a double-edged fixed blade of 18 inches, and both facts carry legal weight. Many jurisdictions treat double-edged daggers as a restricted category in their own right regardless of size, and blade length thresholds apply on top. At 18 inches this will be regulated as a sword or a bladed weapon rather than a knife in a great many places, with different rules and different penalties. Import rules differ again from carry rules. If the second edge is the obstacle, we will sharpen one side and leave the other blunt at no extra cost.

Custom Forge

Matching a Sword You Own?

Daggers of this type were made as companions to arming swords, sharing the cross profile and pommel shape. Send us photographs and dimensions and our smiths will build the dagger to echo them.

Commission a Matched Pair →

Why This Dagger Is Built the Way It Is

Curved CrossThe quillons sweep toward the blade and finish in hooked terminals, rather than running straight. It is the one feature separating this from every other dagger in our range.
Single FullerA narrow groove running most of the blade's length, taking weight out of the middle of the section where the steel contributes least to stiffness.
Disc PommelA flat steel disc at the butt, closing the tang and giving the heel of the hand something to bear against when a thrust stops hard.
Long Fine TaperEighteen inches narrowing evenly to a needle point. On a blade this length the taper is what decides whether it handles or merely hangs.
5160 Spring SteelOil-quenched and tempered back. Toughness matters more than hardness on a slender blade this long, because an off-line thrust loads it sideways.
Laced ScabbardBlack leather drawn together through eyelets at the throat, where all the wear from drawing and sheathing lands, over a body shaped to the blade.

Full Specifications

TypeMandeville dagger, medieval knightly form, curved cross guard
Blade Length18 inches
Handle Length7.5 inches, of which 4.5 inches is grip
Overall Length25.5 inches
Blade Steel5160 high-carbon spring steel, oil-quenched and tempered
Blade ProfileSlender, double-edged, single narrow fuller, long even taper to a fine point
GuardSteel cross curved toward the blade with hooked terminals
PommelFlat steel disc
GripBlack leather over a shaped core
FinishMirror polish
Weight650 g the dagger, 870 g with the scabbard
ScabbardBlack leather with a laced throat panel and riveted straps
SharpnessShips working sharp on both edges, hand-finished on stones
OriginHand-forged in Tokha-3, Kathmandu, Nepal

Blade length, blade finish and grip material are selectable on this listing. The figures above describe the standard build as photographed; what you receive will match the options you choose at checkout. Small variations in weight, dimension and finish are normal in hand-forged work.

Build It Your Way

Blade LengthShorter at 12 or 14 inches, which is a commoner historical proportion and inside far more legal allowances. The taper is redrawn rather than scaled.
Straight CrossA plain straight guard instead of the curved one, which is the more usual arrangement on surviving daggers of this class. No extra cost.
Single-Edged BladeOne edge sharpened and the other left as a blunt false edge. Requested most often for legal reasons and it changes nothing about the look.
Grip CoveringBlack leather as standard. Other colours, cord over leather in the period manner, wire wrap, or a bare shaped timber grip.
Blade FinishMirror polish as photographed, satin, or an antiqued finish that reads closer to an excavated piece. Satin is markedly easier to live with.
Matched to a SwordThe cross and pommel scaled to echo an arming sword you already own. Send photographs and dimensions and we will quote.

What This Dagger Does Well, and What It Does Not

What It Is Good At

  • Display. At 25.5 inches it is the longest dagger we build and it commands a wall accordingly
  • Handling for its size. At 650 grams it is far lighter than its length suggests
  • Sitting beside an arming sword, since the hilt is orthodox knightly furniture
  • Thrusting, which is what the fine taper and the stiff fullered section are arranged around
  • Costume and film work, where a medieval silhouette needs to read at distance

What It Is Not Good At

  • Being a Mandeville reproduction. The name is a trade term, not a provenance
  • Utility work. A double-edged blade cannot be gripped by the spine or used against a board
  • Prying or levering. The point is fine by design and the blade is slender for its length
  • Carry. At 18 inches it will count as a sword rather than a knife in most jurisdictions
  • Low maintenance. Mirror-polished carbon steel marks if you look at it

How to Order a Custom Dagger

Decide the blade length first. Eighteen inches is a display proportion; 12 or 14 is far more practical and legal in more places.
Pick your remaining options on this page, or use the custom forge form for anything outside them.
Tell us your jurisdiction if the length or the double edge is a concern, and we will build accordingly at no extra cost.
We confirm the specification in writing and quote before any steel is cut. Nothing is charged until you agree it.
Our smiths forge and grind the blade, cut the fuller, forge and file the cross and pommel, build the grip, then make the scabbard to the finished piece.
It ships tracked by DHL or FedEx from Kathmandu, with the customs paperwork made out correctly for your country.
The Range

Five Daggers on One Hilt Tradition

They differ far more in weight and grinding than the names suggest, from 36 to 79 grams per inch of blade. The comparison below sets out which is which.

See the Plain Build →

Who This Dagger Is For

  • Display and collection buyers who want the longest and most imposing dagger in the range
  • Sword owners wanting a companion piece on orthodox knightly furniture
  • Buyers who care how a piece handles, since this is unusually light for its length
  • Costume and film buyers needing a medieval silhouette that reads from across a room
  • Collectors of the form completing a set across our five knightly daggers

It is not for you if you want something you could carry, in which case a 12 inch build is the sensible order, or a documented historical reproduction, in which case our plain quillon dagger is the more defensible piece.

What Is Included

  • The hand-forged Mandeville dagger, sharpened and ready for display or use
  • A black leather scabbard with a laced throat panel and riveted straps
  • A certificate of authenticity from the workshop
  • Care instructions for high-carbon steel and polished finishes
  • Everest Forge manufacturer warranty against forging and material defects

Other Blades From the Everest Forge Workshop

Quillon Dagger, Ball PommelThe lightest build, 15 inches →
Quillon Dagger, Barrel PommelPlain and undecorated, 12 inches →
Quillon Dagger, Wheel PommelEtched panel, 17 inches →
Quillon Dagger, Fishtail GuardCast brass mounts and a wire grip →

Shipping, Returns and Care

Dispatch. Stock pieces leave the workshop within 2-3 business days. Custom builds take 4-6 weeks depending on the queue, and we will give you the honest date rather than an optimistic one.

Shipping. Tracked worldwide by DHL or FedEx, typically 7-14 business days in transit from Kathmandu. Customs paperwork is completed accurately and in full. At 18 inches and double-edged, this piece attracts considerably more import scrutiny than an ordinary knife; please check your own country's rules before ordering.

Returns and warranty. Covered by the Everest Forge manufacturer warranty against defects in forging and materials. Custom builds made to your own specification cannot be returned for a change of mind, which is why we confirm everything in writing first.

Care. Mirror-polished high-carbon steel is the least forgiving finish we sell, and our wheel pommel dagger page explains why in detail. Wipe the blade after every handling and keep a light film of oil on it, running a cloth along the fuller specifically since a groove holds moisture that a general wipe skips over. Pay attention to the inside curve of the quillons and the hooked terminals, which are enclosed surfaces a cloth drawn along the blade never reaches. Feed the leather grip and scabbard once or twice a year, keeping conditioner off the steel, and do not store the dagger sheathed for long periods.

Questions Answered

Who was Mandeville, and is this his dagger?

Geoffrey de Mandeville, 1st Earl of Essex, was one of the more notorious figures of the English civil war of the 1140s known as the Anarchy. He sacked Ramsey Abbey, was excommunicated for it, and when he died in 1144 he could not be buried in consecrated ground, so his corpse was sealed in lead and hung from a tree until the Templars interred him in Temple Church in London, where his effigy still lies among the knights. This is not his dagger and it is not a reproduction of his arms. A weapon of his actual era would look quite different: a brazil-nut pommel, a broad blade of near-even width, and a plain straight cross. The disc pommel, the long fine taper and the curved quillons here all belong to the two centuries after him. The name has attached itself to this family of long knightly daggers through trade and collector usage rather than through any documented connection, and we use it because that is what people call the style, while telling you plainly what it does and does not mean.

What does the curved cross do?

Two things, and one of them is the reason the shape exists. Quillons that sweep toward the blade rather than running straight put the terminals closer to the plane of your hand, which means an opposing blade sliding down your own is deflected outward and forward rather than simply stopped, and it is harder for a point to travel past the cross and reach your fingers. The hooked terminals continue that: a hook catches where a straight end lets something slide off. The second, more prosaic function is that a curved cross is less likely to snag on clothing or on the mouth of a scabbard as the dagger is drawn, because the sweep guides rather than blocks. On a piece this length that matters more than it would on a short dagger. It is also, honestly, the least common arrangement among surviving daggers of the type, which is why we offer the straight cross as a free alternative for anyone who wants the more usual form.

Why is it so light for its length?

At 650 grams for an 18 inch blade this works out at 36 grams per inch, which is the lightest figure in our entire dagger range and by a clear margin; the rest run between 42 and 79. Three things produce it. The blade is ground unusually fine from the shoulder, with a slender section rather than a broad one. It carries a fuller down most of its length, taking a channel out of the middle of that already thin section. And the hilt furniture is minimal: a thin curved cross and a flat disc rather than the heavy blocks and cast mounts some of our other daggers carry. The result is a piece that handles far better than its dimensions suggest, and one you can hold out at arm's length without your wrist complaining. The cost is robustness. This is the slenderest blade we make at this length and it will not tolerate being levered, dropped point-first or used as anything other than what it is.

How does it compare with your other knightly daggers?

Five pieces on one hilt tradition, and they differ far more than the names suggest. Compare them by weight per inch of blade, which is the number that actually predicts how a dagger feels: this one at 36, our Ball Pommel at 43, our Wheel Pommel at 54, our Barrel Pommel at 63, and our Fishtail Guard at 79. That is more than double from one end to the other. Take this one or the ball pommel if you want something quick in the hand; take the barrel pommel if you want plain, honest work you can judge; take the fishtail if you want an object that announces itself across a room. Length is the least useful thing to choose on, and the biggest one always wins in a photograph.

Is 18 inches still a dagger?

By hilt, yes; by blade, arguably not, and there has never been an agreed threshold. What separates a dagger from a short sword in practice is not a measurement but how the thing is held and what it is for: a short grip meant for one hand with no expectation of parrying, and a guard that stops the hand rather than protecting it. This piece has both, which is why we call it a dagger. Be aware, though, that legal definitions frequently do use a length figure, and at 18 inches this will fall outside knife legislation and into sword or bladed weapon provisions in a great many places. Our steel lobed bollock dagger page sets out the classification question in more detail.

What is the fuller for?

It removes steel from the middle of the blade's thickness, where the material contributes least to stiffness, so the blade loses weight without losing much rigidity. On a blade this long and this slender the effect is significant and it is one of the three reasons this is the lightest piece in the range. Our deep-fullered kukri page sets out the structural argument, our fullered bowie page explains how to tell a forged fuller from a ground one, and our twin fuller bollock dagger covers why some fullers stop short at the forte while others run the length as this one does.

Is it sharpened on both edges?

Both edges as standard. The blade is slender from the shoulder and tapers evenly in both width and thickness to a fine point, with a narrow fuller running most of its length. It is ground for thrusting first and cutting second, which is what the type was for. If a double edge is a problem where you live, we will sharpen one side and leave the other as a blunt false edge at no extra cost, and the piece looks identical.

How do I check the blade is properly tapered?

Sight along it. Every blade tapers in width toward the point, which you can see at a glance; a good one also tapers in thickness, which you have to look for deliberately. Mass removed near the point affects how a blade handles far more than the same mass near the hilt, so on an 18 inch blade this matters enormously: with a proper distal taper it handles like something considerably shorter, and without one it feels dead and nose-heavy however light it is overall. Lay the blade flat and look at it edge-on from the hilt end, and the thickness should reduce smoothly toward the tip without steps. Our twin fuller bollock dagger page sets the test out in full. It is worth applying to any long blade you are considering, from any maker.

Is a blade this long legal where I live?

We cannot answer that for you, and this piece needs more care than most in our range. Two provisions tend to apply. Many jurisdictions treat double-edged daggers as their own restricted category regardless of size, and blade length thresholds apply independently on top. At 18 inches this is well above any ordinary knife allowance, which in most places means it stops being regulated as a knife at all and falls under sword or bladed weapon provisions, with different rules and different penalties attached. Import rules are frequently different again from possession and carry rules. Check all three for your own address before ordering. If length is the obstacle, a 12 or 14 inch build costs no more and is a commoner historical proportion anyway.

Is the hilt historically accurate?

The components are orthodox; the combination is ours. A disc pommel, a leather grip over a shaped core and a cross guard are all correct for a fourteenth or fifteenth century knightly dagger, and the construction follows the period method rather than imitating its appearance. The curved cross with hooked terminals is the least usual element: straight crosses dominate among surviving examples of this class, and curved ones appear but are the minority. So this is a piece built to the type rather than copied from a documented find, and the name is a trade term rather than a provenance. If you want the more conventional arrangement, the straight cross is free on request, and if you portray a particular region and date we will adjust the proportions to suit.

What steel is it, and how is it heat treated?

5160 high-carbon spring steel, the same stock our smiths use for kukris and swords, forged down from leaf spring in the Nepali tradition. It is oil-quenched and then tempered back, giving a blade that holds an edge but stays tough rather than brittle. Toughness matters more here than on any other dagger we make: this is the longest and slenderest blade in the range, and a thrust that lands off-line loads it sideways along its whole length. That is exactly the case where a hard, brittle steel snaps and a properly tempered one flexes and returns. It is not stainless and it will take a patina with use.

Will my dagger look exactly like the photographs?

Close, but not identical. The blade profile is drawn out by eye against a pattern and the taper is ground by hand in both width and thickness, which on an 18 inch blade leaves more room for variation than on a short one. The fuller is cut individually and its ends land slightly differently each time. The curved cross is forged and filed one at a time, so the exact sweep and the shape of the hooks vary, and on this piece that is the element you are most likely to notice. Leather differs in colour and grain. What does not vary is the specification: length, steel, construction, heat treatment and sharpness are held to the same standard on every piece.

Specification
Blade: 18 inches. Hand forged from 5160 carbon steel
Total Length: 25.5 inches
Handle: 7.5 inches with a 4.5 inch grip. Leather over a core with a steel disc pommel
Weight: 650 grams the dagger, 870 grams with the scabbard
Note: Handmade variation in weight, dimensions and finish may occur. Keep blade lightly oiled when not in use.

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